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Shanthi
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« on: November 06, 2003, 02:40:20 PM »

 All right, guys, I will try

and list all the various features I'm planning on including for real-time racing...I may

forget some, but feel free to suggest anything that comes to mind (within reason

;)).

--Races 2 times per week (Wednesdays &

Saturdays)
  • Dirt/Turf/SC racing (horses will have a preference


score for each)
  • Confidence - horses will have a "mental" score that will be


determined by their quality compared to the quality of the field, as well as previous races

(i.e. if a horse comes off a win they will be more confident next time out, and

vice-verse)
  • Surface preferences - horses will have a preference score for


each surface, rather than just for/against mud
  • Running preference - instead


of having a set "style" (sprinter, steady, closer), horses will have preferences for 4

different styles (on lead, off pace, midpack, and closer).  The jockey will attempt to figure

out what their best score is and try and get them to run that way, but all 4 will most likely

be used during a race.
  • Jockeys - I don't know if this will be fully


implemented by January, but eventually FF will have a "pool" of 50 or so jockeys, all with

different stats/abilities, and these will affect your horse's

run.
  • Ratability - how much and how quickly your horse will respond to a


jockey's commands
  • Pissyness - related to Ratability, it also affects your


horse's confidence level, etc.
  • Stride length - instead of having set


"scores" for minimum/average/maximum speeds, each horse will have a stride length for each

type of running.
  • Acceleration - the rate at which your horse can go from


one stride length to another.
  • Loafing - probably in a stride length, this


will be how hard your horse runs after he has the lead..some horses just slack off, others

keep going and win Belmonts by 31 lengths.  :)
  • Injuries - injuries will be


more likely if your horse has a low soundness and/or dislikes the track

surface.
  • Traffic - horses will move in to the rail, get bumped, swing wide


on turns, etc.  (Hopefully...this is the most challenging part of the overhaul thus far.

:))
  • Competition level - Not yet sure how this will be implemented, but


horses will have a "base" competition level, like allowance or claiming.  Some horses (see

Gary's What A Wonder -- he did decently in GIIs, set speed records in GIIIs, and bombed in

GIs) can run well in certain races but you move them up a class, even with the same distance

and same quality of field, and they choke.
  • Fitness - Horses can be


fit/unfit.  Unfit horses will be more likely to be injured,

probably.
  • Training - eventually, you will be able to train your horses and


do workouts.  No other info as of yet, and don't look for it anytime soon.  

;)
  • Weather forecast - At the beginning of the week (Sundays, probably)


there will be a forecast for weather for that week.  The day before the race, there will be

an updated forecast, and people will be able to scratch their horses after entries close (but

will receive no refund of fee).
  • Post positions - horses will be assigned


post positions for the race, which will be available at the same time as the weather

forecast.  Again, scratching will be enabled after entries close without entry

fee.
  • Animation - Eventually (as in, by 2009, hopefully ;)), you will be


able to view the races with Flash animations.[/list:u]Instead of running it

by distance until the horses have run the full distance (as WTW does now), ATW (At The Wire,

our pseudonym for the overhaul ;)) will run the race by time until the horses have run the

distance of the race.  Hopefully that way we will be able to incorporate things like slowing

down around a turn, etc.  Also, this should help fix the random huge margins that WTW likes

to create.  :)

I'm sure there are more things I'm forgetting, but those are the basic

ideas for now.  :)

Comments?  Questions?  Suggestions?
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Andrea
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2003, 05:50:36 PM »

 If you just read that and are

starting to worry that your GI winner may get assigned bad stats in ATW, don't worry about

it.  We are going to attempt to translate current stats over into the new system.  They may

change some since at the moment for instance there isn't any stat saying how a horse handles

traffic so those will have to be generated randomly.  But hopefully the overall quality of

each horse should stay the same.  :)  So no panic-ing.

Andrea
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hollyh1125
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2003, 11:28:46 PM »

 I think everything sounds

awesome.  I know you talked about this but i didn't see anything in the post, but what about

stamina?  And are we going to know how much time a horse needs off after a race or how tired

they are after a race?  I know that would be REALLY helpful...especially with those horses

that are hard to keep sound.
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2003, 11:57:41 PM »

 Anything that hasn't been

mentioned will remain (roughly) the same as it currently is.  So for stamina, horses will

still have a set distance that they can run at ave/max speed before they have to slow

down.

I have a feeling that the beginning (Jan-May, probably) of 2008 will be highly

challenging since, given the way this semester has gone, I can't promise anything on how

much coding I'll be able to do during next semester.  However, eventually you will probably

have some sort of option to "consult" with a trainer/jockey/etc, to see how your horse came

out of the race, and/or randomly check how your horse is doing 3 days later or whatnot.  ;)  

Like GOTs, those reports won't be 100% accurate, but should give an idea.
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2003, 12:26:44 AM »

 Oh, Shanthi...I love the

pissyness factor!

Finally, those moody beings can have an even greater affect as to how

they run.  Now we gotta make sure they're happy and perky as well as fast.  :-)

Yay for

the coding happy Shanthi!
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2003, 03:11:09 AM »

 Oh.
My.
God.

I'm

floored. Seriously. This is going to be amazing. More than amazing. It's going to be.... FF!

lol  :D Very happy and eager member here!
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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2003, 09:39:06 AM »

 hahaha i like the mood thing

too, because its so much more realistic.  i mean, if your horse is in a bad mood, it wont

want to run!  and i love the loafing!  only the superhorses keep on running when there's no

compitition!  now where can i find a superhorse? *looks under rock*   :D  
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2003, 09:18:42 PM »

 Hey, with the jockey thing,

how much control will we have over who is assigned to run on the horse? Will we be able to

book certain jockeys or something like that? Will certain jockeys request our horse to ride

or something? That'd be kinda cool!

I'm so over the moon, Final Furlong totally rules

the world!
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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2003, 09:38:34 PM »

 I don't know if you'll be

able to request certain jockeys or not.  However, giving jockeys instructions on how to ride

is on the list, though don't look for it soon.  ;)
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JasonCameron
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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2003, 09:45:06 PM »

 Oh I don't care...

Everything else is SOO COOL! :D
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CascadeJade
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« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2003, 04:08:22 AM »

 Have I died???  I think so

because I do believe I'm in heaven!  


A TOTALLY speechless,
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Rainbow Ranch
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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2003, 11:34:56 PM »

 Could we be able to

have/request match races in 2008?
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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2003, 12:16:38 AM »

 Possibly, I don't know.
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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2003, 02:34:53 AM »

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