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« on: January 18, 2005, 01:47:18 AM »

OK, so my current project is to finish up automating nominations.  I have the basics setup, though the form to actually nominate specific horses for specific races doesn't work yet.

However, if you'd like to see what races will require nomination, and what the fees will be, feel free to check here: http://www.finalfurlong.org/nominate.php (Note: you must be logged in first.)

Unless there are reasonable/realistic alternatives, nomination fees that are listed will remain final.

Feel free to comment/etc.
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2005, 02:42:37 AM »

 These nomination fees seem

extremely high, if you have two or three nice horses that DESERVE to run in the race that is

over a million dollars in the case of the DWC

Any others have comments.  Just my two cents

i could be way off.  
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2005, 05:01:58 AM »

 I think the nominations for

the yearlings and weanlings are very fair.  The only thing I think that could be thought

about is since this is the first year of having to nominate horses maybe we should be given a

break on the 2 year old and up horses.  Pretty much if this is how it were in the beginning

we would probably nominated the horses that are worthy of the races as weanlings or

yearlings.  I know that I am planning on nominating my crops.  But I feel that fees over

75,000 should be reconsidered for the older horses that missed out on being nominated as

foals since this is a first year thing.
But other than that I think this is really neat and

awesome work on the nomination page. :)
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2005, 09:12:07 AM »

 Ok, i'm a little

confused....

First I didn't know that there were these large nomination fees for

racehorses in RL...but that shows how much I know ;) I also didn't know that besides the

Breeder's Cup they nominated them so far in advance. How did horses like Funny Cide (and

others like him in simliar high profile races) wind up int he Kentucky Derby(or otherwise)

since his breeding wasn't anything that would show he'd win the Derby? Did they just pay

the late nomination fee?

Second, so say you have a horse you somehow get the intuition of

knowing he'll be good enough to run in the Santa Anita Handicap one year...but the race says

its an annual nomination fee....so you nominate 3k when he's a weanling....10k as a

yealring....25k as a 2yo and so on etc.?? Or is it 3k each year since you nominated him as a

weanling?

Other than that nice system you have there! Nice form! :)
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2005, 12:17:41 PM »

 Jade, if you click on the

race itself, it pulls up a list of all the horses that are eligible to be nominated.  The

form allows you to nominate for up to 3 years at a time (assuming the race allows multiple

runnings...obviously the Kentucky Derby, etc. is a one-time deal).  So for weanlings, with

the Santa Anita Derby, you could nominate them for 2012 (4yo), 2013 (5yo), and 2016 (6yo),

all for the weanling price.  However, in 2016, if they're still racing and still worthy of

running in the race, you'd need to pay the full late fee for them to run in 2017.  (But

that's pretty doubtful, so it is possible to get by pretty cheap on the annual nomination

races if you do it when they're babies).
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2005, 12:22:17 PM »

 Sorry, Dan, you didn't

propose a reasonable/realistic alternative to "way too high".

Obviously these fees are a

bit higher than real life racing.  (Though, Dan, you yourself said that late nominations are

usually 9% of the purse, and these races are 10% or less...).  However, there are roughly 500

stakes races total over the course of the year (just a random guess, there are probably

more)...and nominations are required for 34 of them, plus the BC and BS races.  There are

plenty of Grade 1 stakes races that you can run in without nomination.  If you feel a horse

truly "deserves" to run in the Dubai World Cup (and you notice it's JUST the DWC, the other

Dubai races will be non-nominational), then you'd either be sure s/he'll get 4th or better

and pay you back, or s/he'd better have earned you a bunch of money so that you can afford

to lose 750k, if no one ended up nominating him beforehand.
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2005, 12:32:18 PM »

 Oh, and Jade...nominations

aren't this high in RL.  Usually you can nominate a horse to a race for anywhere from

$500-$5,000.  However, $500 to FF is like $0.005 ;)  so I had to inflate

a bit.

For example - the Derby nominations start at $600, jump to $6,000, and

then to $150,000.  You're also required to pay a $15,000 entry fee and another

$15,000 to start in the race.  The purse is

$700,000/$170,000/$85,000/$45,000.

So if you nominate early, you can

get by with 4th place or better, but if you nominate late you really need to win.  Same story

here...though I'm nice, so late nomination of 10% of the purse + entry fee of 5% means you

can get by with 2nd place as well (20% of the purse).  :P
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2005, 12:35:32 PM »

 Oh, and for this year, I

will probably set it up so that horses who would qualify for late nomination would get the

next highest fee instead.  Not quite the discount you asked for, Holly, but still a very

significant one (i.e. Dubai goes down from 650k to 150k, and most of the 2nd-highest fees are

50k or less).

Does that sound fair?
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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2005, 02:39:00 PM »

 That would be awesome and

totally fair until these nomitations become in full rotation.  Then if someone hasn't

nominated a horse for a race till a month before and they have had their 2 year old, 3 year

old+ years to nominate then it's very fair.  
But now what about these 2 year old races

this year, like the triples and such. We will be aloud to pay yearling price, right?  And

then that way there will be no exceptions for our now weanlings and yearlings and they will

get the full blow of BC Nominations.

Hope i'm making sense of my self. ;)  
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2005, 03:39:15 PM »

 Yes, any horse that would be

nominated for a race to be run this year can be nominated as if it were last year.  So for

the Dubai World Cup, you can nominate a horse for this year's running at 150k, instead of

650k.

And yes, any horses that would be nominated for future races would pay the normal

price.  :P
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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2005, 05:53:04 PM »

 I think that some of the

fees are a little... well... um yeah...

At the same time I think it is awesome because now

we'll see a better quality of horses winning the better races.

One thing though, I'm not

too happy about Aussie's richest and most recognised race's purse being chopped by more

then half... :P

Oh, and when can we start nominating?
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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2005, 05:59:36 PM »

 Oh and also, when will the

rest of the schedule be likely to be posted? I don't wanna register just yet until I can get

some sort of target races arranged! Yikes, too expensive to make mistakes! :)
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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2005, 06:16:26 PM »

 I'm planning to post Feb

later on today..the rest of the months haven't been done, except for the stakes races.
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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2005, 07:25:34 PM »

 Ok I get it now :) Definitly

doesn't make sense to have nominations fees as low in FF as they are in RL!! Now whom to

nominate.... ;)
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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2005, 07:33:24 PM »

Quote from: JasonCameron
One thing though, I'm not too happy about Aussie's

richest and most recognised race's purse being chopped by more then half... :P

Jason, deal.  You're lucky there's Australian racing at all.  I

converted all the Aus. purses into US $, and yes, I did trim a few of them beyond that.  

There's no way I was/am going to add 50 multi-million dollar stakes races to the schedule.

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« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2005, 09:01:48 PM »

 Sorry I wasnt more specific

before, i was going to post about the derby only 600 dollars but u already did.  I totally

understand your logic behind this and I understand.  

One question, willwe still have to

pay entry fees for these races.  
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« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2005, 09:31:20 PM »

 Yes, just like real life,

entry fees are separate from nomination fees.
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« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2005, 10:35:23 PM »

 *scratches head* Are we

allowed to nominate now?  Or is this still in a non-working state?

Sorry for asking the

obvious, tired from traveling all day...
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« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2005, 11:06:14 PM »

 Nope, I need to finish the

last bit of coding for nominations.  I'll post here when they fully work.  :)
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« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2005, 12:19:13 AM »

 And Jase, if you count the

Derby as the US's biggest race, then it's purse is also only half of what it is IRL now,

since they bumped it up to 2 million this year ;).  Deal.
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« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2005, 03:07:01 AM »

 Okay... Sorry...
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« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2005, 03:59:22 AM »

 Hey Shanthi is there anyway

we can know what surface the races are.  There are some that I know but some are new and I'm

not sure.
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« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2005, 04:05:20 AM »

 one more question.  Is there

going to a couple older mare triples this year?  Turf, Dirt, both?
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« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2005, 06:49:51 PM »

 Nomination is about 75%

finished.  Nomination stuff WILL work for all races but the Breeders' Cup and Breeders'

Series races.  I'll work on those a bit more gradually since they won't actually happen for

several months.  :)

And note: obviously the "discounts" that currently apply for horses

eligible to run in this year's races will only apply for this year, so take advantage and

nominate younger horses while they're cheap.  :)
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« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2005, 07:10:42 PM »

 Also, please keep in mind:

There is no confirmation (at this time) before the nominations (and incurring fees) are

processed.  There is a check before each nomination is processed

as to whether you can afford it, but there's nothing to prevent someone from submitting

enough nominations to go bankrupt.  So please keep your budget in mind when planning

nominations.
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« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2005, 10:44:50 PM »

 Is there any way to find out

what the conditions (length, turf/dirt/SC) are for each race?  Or do I have to look up each

race?

Just wondering...
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« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2005, 12:16:48 AM »

 Right now, no, though

eventually the full race schedule will be up and they'll be visible there.

If needed, I

can try and post the conditions for those races individually at some point.
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« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2005, 03:37:22 AM »

 Yeah I posted that same

question pretty much.  It would be nice to know just because we know how some of the horses

can be picky and we don't want to waste money nominating horses for races we know we

wouldn't run them in if we knew the conditions. :)
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« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2005, 12:11:54 PM »

 Yes, I saw your question,

Holly, and I'm aware that you don't know what the race conditions are.  Once I have time, I

will try and post them.
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« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2005, 01:22:40 PM »

 Santa Anita Handicap ? 10f

Dirt
Caulfield Cup ? 12f Turf
Cox Plate ? 10f Turf
Dubai World Cup ? 10f Dirt
Melbourne

Cup ? 16f Turf
Queen Elizabeth II Stakes ? 10f Turf
Kentucky Derby ? 10f Dirt
Irish One

Thousand Guineas ? 8f Turf
Irish Two Thousand Guineas ? 8f Turf
England One Thousand

Guineas ? 8f Turf
England Two Thousand Guineas ? 8f Turf
Preakness Stakes ? 9.5f

Dirt
Belmont Stakes ? 12f Dirt
Queen?s Plate Stakes ? 10f Dirt
Woodbine Oaks ? 9f

Dirt
Mother Goose Stakes ? 9f Dirt
Del Mar Futurity ? 7f Dirt
Prince of Wales Stakes ?

9.5f Dirt
Bison City Stakes ? 8.5f Dirt
Coaching Club American Oaks ? 12f Dirt
Breeders?

Stakes ? 12f Turf
Wonder Where Stakes ? 10f Turf
Alabama Stakes ? 10f Dirt
Arlington

Million ? 10f Turf
Travers Stakes ? 10f Dirt
Hopeful Stakes ? 7f Dirt
Spinaway Stakes ? 7f

Dirt
Matron Stakes ? 8f Dirt
Futurity Stakes ? 8f Dirt
Jockey Club Gold Cup ? 10f

Dirt
Prix de l?Arc de Triomphe ? 12f Dirt
Golden Slipper Stakes ? 6f Turf
Champagne Stakes

? 8.5f Dirt
Frizette Stakes ? 8.5f Dirt
Japan Cup ? 12f Turf
Hong Kong Cup ? 10f Turf
 

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« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2005, 05:48:38 PM »

 Dont mean to correct

anything but the  Prix de l?Arc de Triomphe is run on the Turf.  
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« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2005, 05:59:10 PM »

 Dan, I don't care.

As

Jason pointed out earlier, all of Australia's races are run on the turf, and yet Australia

is roughly 40% dirt for FF.
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« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2005, 06:00:11 PM »

 alright, i didnt know if it

was your intention or a typo.
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« Reply #33 on: January 31, 2005, 07:21:35 PM »

 Just as a general note: Once

nominations are closed for the current year, you will be able to view a list of horses who

are nominated.
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« Reply #34 on: January 31, 2005, 08:00:01 PM »

 Okay everything is working

beauifuly except for the BC races for the end of the year.  I got some horses nominated but

it won't let me nominate the rest.  Is there a limit?

You have an error in your SQL

syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax

to use near ' 1592805)' at line 2
INSERT INTO ff_budgets (Stable, Date, Description,

Amount, Balance) VALUES ('47', '2009-01-31', 'Race Nomination: 2009

Breeders\\\\\\\' Cup - Confirmed Flirt', ,

1592805)

that's the error i get.  And the horses name it chooses to put in is the horse

that is at the start of where i started nominating again.
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« Reply #35 on: January 31, 2005, 08:20:13 PM »

 As I already said...the

Breeders' Cup and Breeders' Series

Races
nominations do

NOT work yet.
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« Reply #36 on: January 31, 2005, 08:31:37 PM »

 Sorry, i just got a little

excited that's all.  My fault for reading to fast again.  

Shanthi I don't want to get

on your bad side today but i think you prolly do want to know when something isn't going

right so you can fix it so I just want to tell you about a little problem with nominating the

last horse on the list.
  When I try to nominate Wide Awake who is on the bottom of the

horse list and i push the nominate button his name doesn't show up on the next page as being

nominated.  There isn't an error message or anything.  But it nominated everyone above

perfectly.
Deff. not a bit deal now since there's like 2 years before the races anyway.  

Just trying to help ya out.
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« Reply #37 on: February 23, 2005, 11:23:52 PM »

 You can view the horses

nominated for this year's race once nominations have closed.  There'll be a button visible

on the nominations page.
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« Reply #38 on: February 23, 2005, 11:30:59 PM »

 For some reason it's not

letting me nominate the last horse on my list (Wide Awake)  When i check him off and push

nominate it goes to the page where is should say he's been successfully nominated but it

says nothing and the database shows him as if nothing had happened....lol....what could be

causeing this?  His name?
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« Reply #39 on: February 24, 2005, 12:04:03 AM »

 I'll look into it when I

get a chance.
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« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2005, 09:07:06 PM »

 Holly, that problem should

be fixed now.
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« Reply #41 on: March 03, 2005, 02:44:35 PM »

 Hmmmm...very stubborn...I

just tried nominating him for a bunch of races and then realized that it is now saying he was

nominated but when i go back to the same race page he is still eligiable to be nominated.  So

basically it's saying it's nominated him but not really doing it, no money is decucted from

my budget either.  Lol...it this just isolated to me or is anyone else having trouble

nominated the last horse on your list...lol.  I'm so sorry Shanthi.
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« Reply #42 on: March 03, 2005, 09:04:20 PM »

 Should be fixed now.
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« Reply #43 on: March 25, 2005, 01:06:36 AM »

 Hey Shanthi,

I was just

wondering something... The Kentucky Derby is listed as being on the 05-04 on the Nominations

page but it is down on the schedule as being on the 04-30. I was just wondering if the dates

for the English/Irish One/Two Thousand Guineas races were correct. I'm just planning some

schedules that's all. :)

Thanks,
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« Reply #44 on: March 25, 2005, 01:10:38 AM »

 The Derby will be run on May

4.  I forgot to fiddle with the schedule, as 2005 has one extra race day than 2004, so I need

a new day of stakes races.
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« Reply #45 on: March 25, 2005, 02:30:06 AM »

 Okay awesome, so we get

another lot of stakes for April then?

Thanks Shanthi! :D
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« Reply #46 on: April 09, 2005, 01:21:17 AM »

 Hey Shanthi,

I think

you've put the Queen's Plate Stakes as being fillies when it should be colts. :) Just

realised when I went to nominate today.
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« Reply #47 on: April 10, 2005, 04:58:37 AM »

 I was just

wondering...

In the event that there are more than 14 nominations for a race - presuming

each stable has two runners max - how do we determine who are the 14 horses to run? Is it

first in best dressed? Or will it be based on a points/earnings system like the Breeders'

Cup or real-life nominations are?

Hypothetically [wow, big word] if 7 stables nominate 2/3

horses and another 5 nominate just one, we could end up with a field of 20 or so horses. What

I would like to kinda figure out is which six horses deserve to get rejected, or placed as

'emergencies' - don't know if you guys have them over there or not...

Take the Derby

for example with 26 nominations. Even with two horses per stable running, that still leaves

three horses that may potentially miss out. How are we going to determine this fairly when

everyone has paid up? Obviously if we are to have a full field, the top 14 horses should

run.

Just me being overly thoughful - for lack of a better word... :P
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« Reply #48 on: April 10, 2005, 02:02:49 PM »

 In that case, it will be

like the real Derby, the horses with the most Graded Stakes earnings will run.
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« Reply #49 on: April 10, 2005, 07:06:18 PM »

 Okay, awesome. :D
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« Reply #50 on: April 12, 2005, 03:42:59 PM »

 Breeders' Cup nominations

are now being accepted.

Note: For 2009 only, you will be able

to nominate horses of all ages for the Breeders' Cup.  Starting in 2010, only weanlings will

be eligible for nomination.  (Remember, the nomination is a lifetime one, so nominating as a

weanling means the horse can race in the BC its entire life.)
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« Reply #51 on: April 12, 2005, 03:48:50 PM »

 For the Breeders' Cup, you

will only see horses listed whose sires have BC nominations for that

year.

Stallion Owners - View
href='
http://www.finalfurlong.org/mb/index.php?showtopic=1915' target='_blank'>this

thread for details on nominating your studs.
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« Reply #52 on: April 12, 2005, 03:49:07 PM »

 Final Note: Just a reminder,

Breeders' Series races still do not work.  That's my next project.  ;)
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« Reply #53 on: June 02, 2005, 07:38:47 PM »

 Just wondering...

Is

there an error maybe with the Prince Of Wales Stakes? On the schedule it is listed as a dirt

race, but on the nominations page it is coming up as turf.
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« Reply #54 on: June 02, 2005, 09:06:47 PM »

 I think that's because

there are 2 Prince of Wales Stakes (one on the turf in England, one on the dirt in Canada).  

Once I have time I'll set the nominations page up so that it actually pulls the right race

info.  ;)

But the Prince of Wales Stakes on the nomination page, which is part of the

Canadian Triple Crown, is run on the dirt.
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« Reply #55 on: June 02, 2005, 09:15:19 PM »

 Awesome, thanks Shanthi!
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« Reply #56 on: April 07, 2009, 09:44:30 PM »

Shanthi,

I was just going through nominating my weanlings for some of the big races for 2016 and had a question.

In the FAQ, it says that you can only nominate a weanling for the BC races if it's sire is nominated as a BC sire. It also says that the nomination is for life.

Am I interpreting the FAQ correctly that if a horse is nominated for the BC races and later becomes a sire, that does not qualify him as a BC sire?

Also, if a sire is nominated as a BC sire for a particular year, the status of BC sire does not carry forward to subsequent years?

I think that I have interpreted the FAQ correctly on those two questions but would be grateful if you could confirm this for me.

Thanks.
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« Reply #57 on: April 07, 2009, 10:31:00 PM »

In the FAQ, it says that you can only nominate a weanling for the BC races if it's sire is nominated as a BC sire. It also says that the nomination is for life.

Am I interpreting the FAQ correctly that if a horse is nominated for the BC races and later becomes a sire, that does not qualify him as a BC sire?

There are 2 types of BC nominations.  1) pre-retirement, that qualifies the horse to enter BC races.  The FAQ needs to be updated to account for supplemental nominations, but it is (by far) cheapest to nominate horses when they're weanlings. 2) nominations as stallions so that their foals can be nominated (cheaply) to run in BC races.  The two options are completely independent of each other.

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Also, if a sire is nominated as a BC sire for a particular year, the status of BC sire does not carry forward to subsequent years?

That is true.  Stallion owners need to re-pay the nomination fee each year if they want that year's breeding (next year's foals) to be eligible for low-cost nomination.
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« Reply #58 on: August 21, 2010, 04:33:50 PM »

Hi!

Shanthi,

What was ever decided on the race nominations?  There was a suggestion floating around about eliminating them all together and because of that I had held off nominating some of my horses because it was eating up a large sum of money...lol...now I'm in a pickle because I noticed nominations had closed for the second leg of the 2yo triple I was really interested in and never nominated my horses for them yet. 
Can we do a supplemental nomination for these races as well (for now, at least) since FF horses who are not nominated get to fill these nomination only races.  This way those who waited or had forgot (etc.) will get a chace to enter before the FF horses get filled in.  Thank you for your time.

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« Reply #59 on: August 25, 2010, 09:59:29 PM »

Lol...okay so either no one knows or it's a sensitive topic.  Either way I would just like to know if there was any additional thought put into this or maybe I should request it in the bug system...

~Was elimitating fees an option that was being considered?
~If not, could we consider allowing late supplemental fees?

Any other thoughts or suggestions others may feel is better?

I remembered a disscussion on eliminating fees but just didn't know if the idea just died with the disscussion or if it's still being considered. 
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« Reply #60 on: August 26, 2010, 07:41:39 AM »

Sorry can't help - just as clueless as you re noms! Miss em all the time!
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« Reply #61 on: August 31, 2010, 09:54:34 AM »

Lol...okay so either no one knows or it's a sensitive topic.  Either way I would just like to know if there was any additional thought put into this or maybe I should request it in the bug system...

It's not a sensitive topic, I've just been busy with eye surgery and then out-of-town visitors.

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~Was elimitating fees an option that was being considered?

It was, and I'm planning on eliminating nominations for the code re-write. I will likely implement a qualification system, instead, so that the top 14 horses for a given race (based on earnings/wins at that distance/age/whatever) would get to enter for, say, the first 4-5 days a race is open for entries, and then it would open up to the rest of the horses in the game.

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~If not, could we consider allowing late supplemental fees?

Not applicable, but also not really an issue with the current code. You have 2+ years to nominate horses now, and while I'm aware that the system could use a major overhaul (which is why it's getting scrapped altogether ;)), it's not like the Breeders' Cup (which does have supplemental nominations) where you only have 1 year to get it done.
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« Reply #62 on: August 31, 2010, 03:26:17 PM »

Eye surgery?! Holy moly! Did you get Lasik?  Hope it went well!

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~If not, could we consider allowing late supplemental fees?

Not applicable, but also not really an issue with the current code. You have 2+ years to nominate horses now, and while I'm aware that the system could use a major overhaul (which is why it's getting scrapped altogether ), it's not like the Breeders' Cup (which does have supplemental nominations) where you only have 1 year to get it done.

Yeah, I understand there is plenty of time nominate, but my issue is I hate to just pick and choose a horse when they are weanlings for races that are 3-4 years away.  I think it's a waste of money to nominate whole foal crops to one race when it's easier and cheaper to wait and see who performs well and just nominate the one or two horses.  Lastly, I usually do have my favorites nominated by this time but since the discussion on eliminating fees I forgot.  Is there a way to open up race entries to non-nominated horses after a period of time before FF horses are entered?  I thought this might be an option since nominations are on the down slope anyway.  But no big deal I guess...there's always next year. :)
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« Reply #63 on: August 31, 2010, 03:53:25 PM »

Eye surgery?! Holy moly! Did you get Lasik?  Hope it went well!

No, cataract surgery. Went pretty well, my eye was about 20/60 with glasses and now it's 20/30 with nothing. :D Only problem is that eye is now farsighted and my (still uncorrected) eye is nearsighted so my brain's rather confused, making reading for long periods tough.

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Yeah, I understand there is plenty of time nominate, but my issue is I hate to just pick and choose a horse when they are weanlings for races that are 3-4 years away.  I think it's a waste of money to nominate whole foal crops to one race when it's easier and cheaper to wait and see who performs well and just nominate the one or two horses.  Lastly, I usually do have my favorites nominated by this time but since the discussion on eliminating fees I forgot.  Is there a way to open up race entries to non-nominated horses after a period of time before FF horses are entered?  I thought this might be an option since nominations are on the down slope anyway.  But no big deal I guess...there's always next year. :)

I get the argument, but that was kind of the point of nominations ;) you'd either have to just spend the (less) money early on and nominate everyone as babies, or wait to see who was nice and nominate them (for more money) later. I'm trying not to change anything (beyond bug fixes) with the current code, though, so that I can focus more on creating new/better code.
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« Reply #64 on: August 31, 2010, 04:02:10 PM »

The new code is going to be "da bomb diggity"! (yeah I said it! lol!)  I will quietly shoo along now. ;)
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« Reply #65 on: August 31, 2010, 04:08:54 PM »

The new code is going to be "da bomb diggity"! (yeah I said it! lol!)

That's the plan. :) Maybe not quite so gangsta-ish, though. :P ;)
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« Reply #66 on: September 06, 2010, 04:20:50 AM »

Is anybody else having a problem viewing the "Race Nominations" on the "Racing"/"Special Races" Tab?

I was trying to map out my horses races for the end of September/early October and was trying to see what races were "Nomination Only" races. All I get is a blank screen.

I wasn't sure if this was something wrong with my Browser or if Shanthi has deactivated it due to the recent communications about this feature, or if this is an actual bug.

Shanthi, a related question:-

Is the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe on Oct 2nd a "Nomination Only" Race? I wanted to enter a horse to run in it (the horse is currently based in Australia), but didn't want to ship the horse to France to then find out that he's not eligible to run in the race.

Thanks.
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« Reply #67 on: September 06, 2010, 04:27:42 AM »

I have the same thing, just a blank screen. I saw that, figured my internet was being funky and not loading pages all the way. I tried it again just now, and the same thing happened. I'm not sure what's going on.
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« Reply #68 on: September 06, 2010, 08:46:59 AM »

Is anybody else having a problem viewing the "Race Nominations" on the "Racing"/"Special Races" Tab?

I was trying to map out my horses races for the end of September/early October and was trying to see what races were "Nomination Only" races. All I get is a blank screen.

This is a bug. Any "white screen of death" is a bug.

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Is the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe on Oct 2nd a "Nomination Only" Race? I wanted to enter a horse to run in it (the horse is currently based in Australia), but didn't want to ship the horse to France to then find out that he's not eligible to run in the race.

Yes, it is nomination-only.
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« Reply #69 on: October 09, 2010, 03:57:38 AM »

I have a question regarding breeders cup nominations. I couldn't find it so hopefully this hasn't been answered.

I was thinking of doing a late BC supplemental fee for a filly I own by Romeo. I know famous stallions were BC nominated. I was wondering if this was ever changed and all FF stallions were nominated? I couldn't tell by looking at their pages. Definitely don't want to spend the money to do it until I'm 100% sure.

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« Reply #70 on: October 09, 2010, 02:59:28 PM »

No, all FF studs are not nominated. 

It may be too late to do a supplemental nomination for the BC for this year.  Nominations need to be done 30 days before the race.
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« Reply #71 on: October 09, 2010, 03:47:31 PM »

I had already asked that question in another thread and Shanthi replied that BC Supplemental Nominations could be done right up to when Entries close.
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« Reply #72 on: October 09, 2010, 09:16:25 PM »

No, all FF studs are not nominated. 


Ok, I'll just assume Romeo wasn't nominated.

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