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Color War Challenge => General/Questions => Topic started by: Hilda with Clicker on October 02, 2016, 12:18:07 PM

Title: Color War idea
Post by: Hilda with Clicker on October 02, 2016, 12:18:07 PM
Maybe in the future we could use horses donated by team members, instead of created horses from Final Furlong? If each team is a mix of newbies and established stables, we could have a stable of interesting pedigree ponies that would be more fun to figure out and also more competitive, so the teams wouldn't only compete in Maidens and NW1 races... (unless a team is lucky to have an exceptional created horse).
We often tend to ask for advice regarding our better horses, so if we were donating them to our Color War teams, I wouldn't hesitate to offer a stakes level 3yo+ or a 2yo with gold ranked parents, etc. Also, at the beginning each team member could propose several horses and then other members would vote which would join their Color War stable.
Title: Re: Color War idea
Post by: Shanthi on October 02, 2016, 12:36:22 PM
It's an interesting idea, though I'd wonder about fairness. The reason teams get randomly generated horses is so that each team has roughly the same quality of horse (or, if not, the same chance of getting a high quality horse). If horses are donated by team members then a team could be heavily advantaged by having a specific stable or bloodline in their barn.

I'll have to ponder it, there might be ways to balance it out. :)
Title: Re: Color War idea
Post by: Hilda with Clicker on October 02, 2016, 03:53:19 PM
I'll have to ponder it, there might be ways to balance it out. :)

Maybe if we didn't donate horses to our own team, but to this year's Color War in general? Then we wouldn't know if our horse ends up in our team or in another, just like it is with team members.
Title: Re: Color War idea
Post by: Shanthi on October 02, 2016, 04:00:15 PM
Maybe if we didn't donate horses to our own team, but to this year's Color War in general? Then we wouldn't know if our horse ends up in our team or in another, just like it is with team members.

There's still the trick of balancing teams out - if 2 horses get donated who are stakes quality and there are 5+ teams, is that fair if one (or both) horses end up on one team vs another?
Title: Re: Color War idea
Post by: Wolfhound on October 02, 2016, 06:06:47 PM
Would it be possible to use FF horses and write a script similar to select auction where it picks out say 2 x 4yo stakes winners 2 x 3yo allowance winners and 4 creates as we do now? would that be too complicated? or run a similar script on donated horses?
It would be interesting to have some CW horses running at higher levels.
Title: Re: Color War idea
Post by: Shanthi on October 03, 2016, 09:48:25 AM
That's not a bad idea, especially if it were based on horses who'd run before (so it's clear that they're stakes winners and not just babies with good bloodlines).

Will ponder. :)
Title: Re: Color War idea
Post by: Shelbie on August 17, 2017, 03:28:44 PM
Hey Shanthi, I have a proposal for CW results if you’re interested. I know you’re absolutely swamped and could use less on your plate, and I think by this point most of us would love to see results just to tie things up and get look forward to a our next CW (hopefully next year!). Rather than make it complicated with figuring out the scripts, why not just award CW points/horses based on the end point total and do a -20 points or something per month for the teams who were inactive for long stretches? I feel this would still award our active teams based on their concluded point tally, but take into account teams who ceased entering months before the end and avoided additional race-finish penalties. I know members have researched FF award horses in previous War years, so we can certainly do that for you again!

So results might look something like this:

Lapis Lazuli: -128 (unraced since August) | 20 pt penalty x 4 months inactive = -80 = -208
Bloody Oranges: -272 (unraced since July) | 20 pt penalty x 5 months inactive = -100 = -372
Green Giants: -344
Scarlet Crusaders: -366
Shades of Purple: -422

FINAL:
1st - Lapis Lazuli: -208 pts
2nd - Green Giants: -344 pts
3rd - Scarlet Crusaders: -366 pts
4th - Bloody Oranges: -372 pts
5th - Shades of Purple: -422 pts

I threw out -20 as a random number, but this can be tweaked of course. Doesn't need to be complicated!
Title: Re: Color War idea
Post by: Shanthi on August 17, 2017, 07:19:52 PM
Thanks Shelbie. :) It's not so much figuring out the final team standings as unearthing the script(s) that pick what horse options go to whom. I'll try and take a look at it this weekend and see if it's easy to run, and if so will probably end up with something along the lines of your list.