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« on: December 31, 2004, 04:14:35 PM »

Hi guys,

So, I haven't had time to automate this yet, but hopefully that'll happen semi-soon.  But for now, here's the deal:

Anyone is welcome to do picks, though obviously you need to be in the game to receive money/prizes for picking the right horses.

FF will pay people based on their picks:
Win - if you correctly pick the winning horse, you will receive $250
Place - if you correctly pick the placing horse, you will receive $100
Show - if you correctly pick the showing horse, you will receive $50
Quinella - if you correctly pick the 1-2 horses in the correct order, you will receive $500
Trifecta - if you correctly pick the 1-2-3 horses in the correct order, you will receive $1,000

Note: Quinella & Trifecta bets are "stand-alone", as in -- if you succeed at the Quinella, you only get the money for the Quinella, not the Win/Place bets as well.

So if you pick the right horse to win, but miss out on 2nd/3rd, you get $250.  If you pick the right horse to win and place (in the right order), but miss out on 3rd, you get $500.  And so on.

Races must have at least 3 horses to place bets, and must have at least 6 to place quinella/trifecta bets.

Picks must be posted to the forum by midnight EST on racing day (so Tuesday/Friday nights).

Until I automate this, you will be responsible for keeping track of your own standings.

FF will pay on a monthly basis.

Note: There may be end-of-year prizes for people who do very well and do handicapping for a lot (i.e. 50% or more) of the racing days.

Any questions?
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« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2004, 04:15:57 PM »

 Oh, and you can only pick 1

horse for each win/place/show bet, and 1 Quinella/Trifecta bet.  So for each race, you may

place a maximum of 5 bets.

Odds will not be a factor for a long while, so betting/picking

horses will not cost anything at this time.
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« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2004, 05:31:59 PM »

 oh wow this is fun. So we

don't really have to "BET" yet to place a bet. We just handicapp the race day and if we win

we get the money??  Either way this is going to be AWESOME and really nice for newbies. :)  

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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2004, 05:36:12 PM »

 Yeah, for now, you'll just

post with your picks, and then keep track of how much $ FF owes you.  :)  Once I

automate it, you'll just click buttons on the post parade, or something.
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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2005, 07:58:57 PM »

  got a stupid

question...

 what if the horse you picked say for second and third were reversed, do you

get anything for those?  
 or one chosen to place shows intstead? or any of that

combination? thanks, Grace
 
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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2005, 08:10:02 PM »

 Right now, you must pick the

correct horse in the correct placing/order for all bets (including quinella/trifecta) to get

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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2005, 11:20:36 PM »

 got another silly one  

lol
if you pick the 2 and 3 horse but miss the winner do you  get anything special  or just

place and show money. it had not occured to me untill it happened last weekend.
i dont seem

to remember any special thing for it but thought id ask .

thanks , carole grace
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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2005, 11:33:22 PM »

 You just get place/show

money.  In order to get quinella you have to pick 1 and 2, and trifecta you need to pick 1,

2, and 3.
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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2005, 12:56:05 PM »

when we total up the winnings

do we just post it on our picks or do we pm u with them??
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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2005, 02:04:12 PM »

You'll notice there are

threads that include peoples' monthly totals.  Please post yours there.
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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2005, 06:14:15 PM »

Why did I not discover this thread sooner? lol This is why people put down their picks. So we can just jump in at any time right?
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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2005, 08:47:59 PM »

Yep...you just have to have them in by midnight the day before the races. Last month I earned about $9,000 and was one of the least effective handicappers. It's free money!
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« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2005, 07:39:17 PM »

Can anyone please explain the "show" part? Im confused now that Im tallying up scores from wed.
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« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2005, 07:40:18 PM »

Win = 1st place
Place = 2nd place
Show = 3rd place
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« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2005, 09:07:34 PM »

Hi,
If you pick a horse for show and it comes in second do you get show money.
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« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2005, 09:24:46 PM »

No.  The horse must come in the exact position you pick for it to finish.  So, if you picked a horse to show(3rd) and it placed(2nd), you do not receive any winnings.  

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« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2005, 01:22:58 AM »

Thanks Tom.That's what I thought but I wasn't sure.
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« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2005, 01:35:09 AM »

Once I get "real" betting setup (sometime in 2010, hopefully), you'll get money for bets that aren't exact (i.e. show bets where the horse wins, etc).
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« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2005, 04:17:23 AM »

That will be great Shanthi! When I go tally things up after the races I often see that at least one of the horses that I chose to be the top 3 makes it but not in the place I put it in and Im always kicking myself.
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« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2005, 10:43:26 AM »

How do we let Shanthi know what our winnings are?
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« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2005, 01:39:11 PM »

at the end of the month (after last race)... someone starts a thread... and we post how we did for that month... something like this...

Name: Dawn

Stable Name: Battle Hill Farm

Total Days Handicapped: 6
Win: 21 x 250 = $5250
Place: 20 x 100 = $2000
Show: 17 x 50 = $850
Quinella: 9 x 500 = $4500
Trifecta: 2 x 1000 = $2000

Total Winnings for November: $14,600

and sometime during the month... Shanthi then gcredits our account... hope that helps...
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« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2005, 01:18:56 AM »

Thanks Dawn It helps.
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« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2006, 10:45:42 PM »

Hi Shanthi,

I was just wondering if you were going to have any end-of-year prizes for handicapping?
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« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2006, 10:57:34 PM »

I looked into it, but no one handicapped at lesat 50% of the races, so I figured the money from handicapping is enough.  :P
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« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2006, 11:18:49 PM »

Thanks.  I know I definately didn't handicap 50% of the races.  And, yes, the money from handicapping is enough. :)
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« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2006, 12:09:30 AM »

Hi,
Was the handicapping money from Dec. paid out yet?
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« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2006, 12:12:56 AM »

No, I always post when money is handed out.  I generally wait about 2 weeks so that I only have to go through once rather than half a dozen times for people who don't bother to post their totals early.
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« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2006, 07:22:48 PM »

Matt
from what I can tell you only get money if the horse come in the spot you put the horse down for coming in.
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« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2007, 12:58:26 AM »

Shanthi,

When does the money get posted to our accounts?  Other than posting our records on the forum, do we need to do anything to "collect" the money ?

(not to be greedy, but I need the money to offset the horses I bought at the auction  ;D)
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« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2007, 03:08:54 AM »

at the end of each month a thread is created that you put your monthly totals on and then Shanthi when she gets to it will transfer the funds.
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« Reply #30 on: December 13, 2007, 08:03:13 PM »

Shanthi,

I am thoroughly enjoying this competition and am just sad that I didn't find out about it earlier.  Thanks for coming up with it.  I've only been doing it for 10 days, but am averaging more than $6,500 each day.

It is proving very frustrating, however, as I have had 53 races in which my three picks finished 1-2-3, however, not in the correct order. This does not include 19 races in which I actually did hit the Trifecta. In many of them, because of the order in which the horses finished, I ended up getting nothing at all.

How about adding a little something for getting 1-2-3 but in the wrong order, say $250??? Also say $100 for having your first two picks finish 1-2 but in the wrong order? I seem to recall a PM from you in which you said that you might consider paying something out if, say, the horse we picked to Show finished 1st or 2nd. This would be kind of like an extension to that idea.

Maybe you could start those in the New Year?!?!  Anyhow, this is just an idea/wishful thinking on my part/venting my frustration (pick one).

Thanks for listening.

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« Reply #31 on: December 13, 2007, 08:51:13 PM »

Now that odds are generated I'm planning on setting up actual betting.  So once that's set up, you will get a (smaller) payout for picking the correct horses in the incorrect order.
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« Reply #32 on: December 13, 2007, 09:27:00 PM »

Wow Shanthi, we just can't keep up with you, can we? We come up with a suggestion and find out that you're already working on it. There's just no holding you back, is there!!!

I'm looking forward to this. Thanks.
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