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« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2005, 10:14:04 PM »

 That's cool :) . However I

think there's to many for the number of horses we have in the game considering there's only

190 in RL. what about combining the list. Add the points from each list that each horse has

and set a minimum total, but that's just me. Getting that done so fast was great Shanthi :D  

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« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2005, 11:50:00 PM »

 So the combined top 10 list

(of sires) is as follows:

1. Highland Rogue - 372 (grand)foals - 137 racers - 13 MSPs - 20

SWs - 37 MSWs - 258 points
2. What's It Worth - 276

(grand)foals - 66 racers - 6 MSPs - 10 SWs - 19 MSWs - 131

points

3. Seattle Slew - 199 (grand)foals - 105 racers - 10 MSPs - 8 SWs - 14

MSWs - 104 points
4. Secretariat - 157 (grand)foals - 56 racers

- 1 MSP - 6 SWs - 12 MSWs - 79 points
5. Cigar - 119

(grand)foals - 64 racers - 6 MSPs - 6 SWs - 10 MSWs - 74

points

6. Rainbow Quest - 62 (grand)foals - 31 racers - 3 MSPs - 4 SWs - 9

MSWs - 60 points
7. Planet Hollywood - 115 (grand)foals - 48

racers - 7 MSPs - 5 SWs - 7 MSWs - 57 points
8. A.P. Indy - 79

(grand)foals - 32 racers - 2 MSPs - 2 SWs - 9 MSWs - 53

points

9. Cross Roads - 113 (grand)foals - 37 racers - 3 MSPs - 3 SWs - 8

MSWs - 52 points
10. Bold Ruler - 99 (grand)foals - 34 racers -

2 MSPs - 3 SWs - 7 MSWs - 46 points

This also happens to be

the cut-off for 50+ total points.
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« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2005, 12:24:41 AM »

 Wow you are fast :D . So now

the fun starts labeling the chefs for dosage. Figuring where they line up would be a real

pain if it has to be done manually. This will be a great tool when it's done.
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« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2005, 12:39:47 AM »

 I played around with the

numbers some more, and adjusted the points so that grandfoals were worth 150% as much as

foals (so a MSW grandfoal is worth 7.5pts, not 5pts).  The top 10 list didn't change, but

the order did:

1. Highland Rogue - 372 (grand)foals - 137 racers - 13 MSPs - 20 SWs - 37

MSWs - 319.5 points
2. Seattle Slew - 199 (grand)foals - 105

racers - 10 MSPs - 8 SWs - 14 MSWs - 146 points
3. What's It

Worth - 276 (grand)foals - 66 racers - 6 MSPs - 10 SWs - 19 MSWs - 133

points

4. Secretariat - 157 (grand)foals - 56 racers - 1 MSP - 6 SWs - 12

MSWs - 103 points
5. Cigar - 119 (grand)foals - 64 racers - 6

MSPs - 6 SWs - 10 MSWs - 92 points
6. Bold Ruler - 99

(grand)foals - 34 racers - 2 MSPs - 3 SWs - 7 MSWs - 64.5

points

7. Rainbow Quest - 62 (grand)foals - 31 racers - 3 MSPs - 4 SWs - 9

MSWs - 63 points
8. Planet Hollywood - 115 (grand)foals - 48

racers - 7 MSPs - 5 SWs - 7 MSWs - 57 points
9. Cross Roads -

113 (grand)foals - 37 racers - 3 MSPs - 3 SWs - 8 MSWs - 54.5

points

10. A.P. Indy - 79 (grand)foals - 32 racers - 2 MSPs - 2 SWs - 9 MSWs

- 53 points

Again, this fell at the cut-off for 50+ total

points.
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« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2005, 12:49:43 AM »

 The dams top 10 list is as

follows:

1. Townsend Holly - 10 foals - 9 racers - 1 MSP - 1 SW - 4 MSWs -

24 points
2. Miss Hayday - 11 foals - 8 racers - 0 MSP - 1 SW -

4 MSWs - 23 points
3. Highland Sorceress - 10 foals - 6 racers

- 0 MSP - 2 SW - 3 MSWs - 21 points
4. Seeing Starz - 10 foals

- 7 racers - 0 MSP - 0 SW - 4 MSWs - 20 points
5. Hollywood

Queen - 11 foals - 8 racers - 1 MSP - 1 SW - 3 MSWs - 19

points

6. Patriot Games - 9 foals - 6 racers - 0 MSP - 1 SW - 3 MSWs -

18 points
7. Nation's Pride - 11 foals - 9 racers - 2 MSP - 2

SW - 2 MSWs - 18 points
8. Heart's Blood - 9 foals - 6 racers

- 1 MSP - 2 SW - 2 MSWs - 17 points
9a. Evening Flame - 9 foals

- 7 racers - 0 MSP - 2 SW - 2 MSWs - 16 points
9b. First Lady -

9 foals - 6 racers - 0 MSP - 2 SW - 2 MSWs - 16 points
9c.

Playing With Fire - 11 foals - 7 racers - 0 MSP - 2 SW - 2 MSWs - 16

points

9d. Secret Summer - 7 foals - 5 racers - 0 MSP - 2 SW - 2 MSWs -

16 points
10a. American Black - 7 foals - 4 racers - 0 MSP - 0

SW - 3 MSWs - 15 points
10b. Highland Dreamer - 7 foals - 4

racers - 0 MSP - 0 SW - 3 MSWs - 15 points
10c. That's

Debatable - 9 foals - 7 racers - 0 MSP - 0 SW - 3 MSWs - 15

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« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2005, 12:55:39 AM »

 For "broodmare dams", I also

adjusted the numbers for grandfoals, this time by 2 (so a MSW grandfoal is worth 10 points,

not 5).  The "broodmare dams" top 10 list is as follows:

1. That's Debatable - 14

(grand)foals - 5 racers - 0 MSP - 1 SW - 2 MSWs - 26 points
2.

Townsend Holly - 28 (grand)foals - 15 racers - 1 MSP - 0 SW - 2 MSWs - 22

points

3. Hollywood Queen - 16 (grand)foals - 6 racers - 0 MSP - 0 SW - 2

MSWs - 20 points
4. Midnight Magic - 8 (grand)foals - 2 racers

- 0 MSP - 0 SW - 2 MSWs - 20 points
5. Nation's Pride - 14

(grand)foals - 6 racers - 0 MSP - 2 SW - 0 MSWs - 12 points
6.

Doubletake - 4 (grand)foals - 1 racers - 0 MSP - 0 SW - 1 MSWs - 10

points

7. Lady Temperance - 5 (grand)foals - 1 racers - 0 MSP - 0 SW - 1 MSWs

- 10 points
8. Lymerick - 11 (grand)foals - 3 racers - 0 MSP -

0 SW - 1 MSWs - 10 points
9. Second Chance - 2 (grand)foals - 1

racers - 0 MSP - 0 SW - 1 MSWs - 10 points
10.

Ifyoucouldseemenow - 17 (grand)foals - 3 racers - 1 MSP - 1 SW - 0 MSWs - 8

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« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2005, 01:01:51 AM »

 The overall combined total

(for dam score + broodmare dam score) top 14 (which gets 20+ points) list is:

1. Townsend

Holly - 38 (grand)foals - 24 racers - 2 MSP - 1 SW - 6 MSWs - 46

points

2. That's Debatable - 23 (grand)foals - 12 racers - 0 MSP - 1 SW - 5

MSWs - 41 points
3. Hollywood Queen - 27 (grand)foals - 14

racers - 1 MSP - 1 SW - 5 MSWs - 39 points
4. Midnight Magic -

16 (grand)foals - 8 racers - 0 MSP - 0 SW - 4 MSWs - 30

points

5. Nation's Pride - 25 (grand)foals - 15 racers - 2 MSP - 4 SW - 2

MSWs - 30 points
6. Seeing Starz - 22 (grand)foals - 11 racers

- 0 MSP - 1 SW - 4 MSWs - 26 points
7. Miss Hayday - 21

(grand)foals - 12 racers - 1 MSP - 1 SW - 4 MSWs - 25 points
8.

Evening Flame - 24 (grand)foals - 10 racers - 0 MSP - 3 SW - 2 MSWs - 22

points

9. Highland Sorceress - 11 (grand)foals - 6 racers - 0 MSP - 2 SW - 3

MSWs - 21 points
10. Ifyoucouldseemenow - 27 (grand)foals - 11

racers - 1 MSP - 2 SW - 2 MSWs - 21 points
11. Lymerick - 19

(grand)foals - 7 racers - 1 MSP - 0 SW - 3 MSWs - 21 points
12.

Doubletake - 13 (grand)foals - 7 racers - 0 MSP - 0 SW - 3 MSWs - 20

points

13. Lady Temperance - 13 (grand)foals - 6 racers - 2 MSP - 1 SW - 2

MSWs - 20 points
14. Second Chance - 10 (grand)foals - 6 racers

- 0 MSP - 0 SW - 3 MSWs - 20 points
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« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2005, 01:03:17 AM »

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1. Highland Rogue - 372 (grand)foals - 137 racers - 13 MSPs - 20 SWs - 37 MSWs -

319.5 points
2. Seattle Slew - 199 (grand)foals - 105 racers -

10 MSPs - 8 SWs - 14 MSWs - 146 points
3. What's It Worth -

276 (grand)foals - 66 racers - 6 MSPs - 10 SWs - 19 MSWs - 133

points

4. Secretariat - 157 (grand)foals - 56 racers - 1 MSP - 6 SWs - 12

MSWs - 103 points
I would personally

suggest this list of sires as our initial set of chef-de-race sires.  Does anyone have any

comments/alterations/suggestions to make on that list?
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« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2005, 01:08:02 AM »

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1. Townsend Holly - 38 (grand)foals - 24 racers - 2 MSP - 1 SW - 6 MSWs - 46

points

2. That's Debatable - 23 (grand)foals - 12 racers - 0 MSP - 1 SW - 5

MSWs - 41 points
3. Hollywood Queen - 27 (grand)foals - 14

racers - 1 MSP - 1 SW - 5 MSWs - 39 points
5. Nation's Pride -

25 (grand)foals - 15 racers - 2 MSP - 4 SW - 2 MSWs - 30

points

7. Miss Hayday - 21 (grand)foals - 12 racers - 1 MSP - 1 SW - 4 MSWs -

25 points
I would suggest this list as our

initial Reines de Course list, as it is the list of the mares who made the top "10" both as

dams and as dams of dams.

Again, comments/suggestions/etc?
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« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2005, 01:09:15 AM »

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I have a question though, will this be automated so that

when a new stud qualies himself he'll be added to the list on maybe a page that updates

itself like some of your other breeding pages?
That depends on what

counts as "qualifies himself" ;)  Once we figure that out, sure, automating it should be

pretty straightforward.
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« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2005, 01:45:18 AM »

 Those look great and the

proportion of studs to mares seems right. :) Looks like you really got into this ;)
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« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2005, 02:00:55 AM »

 I guess...It was mainly just

playing around with sorting in Excel.  ;)
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« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2005, 02:02:33 AM »

 So I propose the following

breakdown of distances for the chef-de-race classifications.

Brilliant - 5-6f flat, 5-7.5f

SC
Intermediate - 6.5-8.5f flat, 8-10f SC
Classic - 9-11f flat, 10.5-13f SC
Solid -

11.5-13.5f flat, 13.5-15f SC
Professional - 14f+ flat, 15.5f+ SC

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« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2005, 02:35:00 AM »

 Yeah I'd say those are

about right. You wouldn't want them any longer or shorter. I'm not too sure about what the

racing divisions are over there, but if you were in Aussie they'd

be:
1000-1200m
1300-1700m
1800-2200m
2300-2700m
2800+

I think maybe the brilliant

section might be able to go up 1/2 a furlong to 6.5F/1300m.
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« Reply #29 on: March 25, 2005, 02:45:28 AM »

 I'm trying to keep each

division at a ~2f range, and I figure if one division has to get short-changed it may as well

be the Brilliant division since that one would have the fewest races anyway.
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