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« on: April 12, 2005, 03:47:25 PM »

Stallions must be nominated to the Breeders' Cup for their foals to be eligible for nomination themselves.

Nomation fee for stallions: $100,000 per foal crop
Nomination fee for foals: $5,000 for a lifetime nomination

As you can see, it is significantly more expensive to nominate a stallion than a foal.  However, BC nominated stallions can potentially charge a higher stud fee than non-nominated ones, and their foals can be sold for higher prices.  $100,000 was chosen as the fee because most halfway-decent studs have stud fees starting at $10,000.  With a full crop, you can still get $50,000 "profit" even if you nominate that crop to the BC.  Even with only 10 foals for that year, the nomination will still be covered by the stud's breeding fees.

Please go here to nominate your studs for the Breeders' Cup.

For 2009: In 2009 only, you will be able to nominate your stud for all foal crop years.

Starting in 2010, you will nominate the stud year by year for that foal crop (i.e. the 2011 foal crop in 2010, the 2012 crop in 2011, and so on).  Nominations will be required by the start of the breeding season, or February 14.

Any questions?  Post here.
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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2005, 04:24:25 PM »

Note: Final Furlong famous studs (i.e. those from real life - Man O'War, Secretariat, etc) will be nominated for the Breeders' Cup.  No other FF studs will be nominated, however.
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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2005, 04:34:35 PM »

(Just as a random note of interest...)

Nominating every foal crop for the famous stallions FF owns (34 total) cost $23,100,000.    :shock:  :?
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2005, 08:15:19 PM »

:o 23 million? And that's just the famous studs? Wow!
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2005, 08:19:27 PM »

Well, each stud had between 5 and 10 crops, and each crop is $100,000 to nominate.
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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2005, 01:26:12 AM »

Theoretical question... colts who weren't nominated to BC races are eligible to have their foal crops nominated, right?  Seems silly to nominate crops from my studs who aren't even racing anymore..

Note:  If anyone is still racing/campaigning a SWing foal by Cross Roads or Planet Hollywood that was born pre-2004, let me know.  I'm more than happy to nominate them, but I didn't figure there was much need.
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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2005, 01:50:35 AM »

Well, on the page, if none of the foals from that crop are currently racing, it won't let you nominate that crop.  ;)

But yes, a stallion only needs a nomination as a stud for his foals to be nominated.  

Whether the horse was nominated in/ran in the Breeders' Cup as a racer makes no difference.
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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2005, 04:04:06 AM »

Yeah, I spent exactly a million to nominate my studs crops and for a few of my studs I didn't nominate all the crops either!

FYI-I've nominated ALL of Devil May Care and What's Debaable's crops and the 2009 and 2010 of Moonover Boy and 2004 of Five Card Stud's crop and none of Northern Slew's. If anybody with a foal by one of those studs has a problem with that let me know and we'll see if we can work something out. :)

Oh and BTW-because its so expensive to nominate studs expect a BIG raise in stud fees next season. For now they're staying the way they are so if you've planned on breeding to one of my 3 below nows a good time to do it!
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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2005, 11:12:59 AM »

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I was just wondering, some of my horses aren't showing up on the list to be nominated for the Breeders' Cup. Is there any reason for this?


It's probably because whoever owns their sire(s) hasn't nominated the sire(s) for their birth year's crop.
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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2005, 05:52:01 PM »

All but the first Secret Of Love's crops have been nominated.  Let me know if there is a problem with that. :)
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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2005, 06:40:57 PM »

The horse page now displays whether or not a stallion is nominated for the Breeders' Cup.

Note: This nomination refers to the next year's crop, so it would apply to the foals currently being bred.  If a stallion's 2008 crop is nominated, for example, but no crops after that, he will not be listed as nominated to the Breeders' Cup.
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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2005, 04:49:07 AM »

The horse page was accidentally displaying all studs as nominated for the BC for their 2010 foals - this has now been fixed.
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« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2006, 03:27:45 PM »

The Breeders' Cup nomination page for stallions now lets you nominate next year's crop of foals (the ones being bred this year).  Remember that nominations are due by Feb. 14.
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« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2006, 06:50:03 PM »

Breeders' Cup Nominations for 2011 foal crops are due today.
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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2008, 06:35:37 PM »

I hope I'm not being too stupid but I can't seem to nominate any foal crop even though my Studs are nominated.Any help would be appreciated.Thanks. :)
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