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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2005, 04:18:15 PM »

I dont think that you should sell a bunch of horses just to get a free one down the road. But if you were going to sell anyway it helps you toward getting another one that might be a better prospect.
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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2005, 05:39:00 PM »

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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2005, 05:47:20 PM »

I tweaked the point/reward system a bit, and added in automation (which was easier than I thought it'd be 8)).  Check the first post for links, etc.
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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2005, 06:00:47 PM »

That is a really good idea. For the older members we kinda know how much time we need to spend on the barn and horses and etc.. which is a good idea for making it hard to earn the points. This is a over all awesome idea.
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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2005, 06:05:36 PM »

Wow! That automation is great!  I can't even fathom doing something like that.  Shanthi you are a genius to me!  ;)
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« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2005, 06:18:17 PM »

Glad you guys like it.  :)  Give me a while to figure out how to automate redeeming points, and we'll be in business.   8)
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« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2005, 06:31:10 PM »

Very nice. I almost always have a stall open for a new racer
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« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2005, 08:14:42 PM »

Definitely a fabulous idea, Shanthi. Perfect for the newbies, and I too agree that I'll never turn down a free horse!
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TLawrence
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« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2005, 09:06:12 PM »

Nobody who's less than a few years old is going to have the ability to consign 10+ horses to a private auction, though.

Also...I /could/ see two very bored people selling the same horse back and forth for hours to get the points. I'd suggest putting in a check to avoid that sort of thing, if we can.

And rewarding for selling not buying, whilst it might get another horse or two up for sale...newbies aren't going to be selling horses. What worries me is that this could help the 'rich get richer'.
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« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2005, 09:10:31 PM »

You can't do that with buying and selling because of the three month cap or three time usage limits. :)

I am pretty surprised that considering how active I've been I only landed 311 points.
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« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2005, 09:37:08 PM »

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Nobody who's less than a few years old is going to have the ability to consign 10+ horses to a private auction, though.


True, but if there's incentive to auction several horses at a time rather than just sell them off gradually over the course of a year, then there are more horses available to new members, in theory.

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Also...I /could/ see two very bored people selling the same horse back and forth for hours to get the points. I'd suggest putting in a check to avoid that sort of thing, if we can.


As Jason said, this is taken care of with the 3-use/6-month waiting period for selling horses.

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And rewarding for selling not buying, whilst it might get another horse or two up for sale...newbies aren't going to be selling horses. What worries me is that this could help the 'rich get richer'.


Selling and buying are both rewarded...buying less so because most people buy many more horses than they sell.  (I did originally have it setup so that they got equal points, but then some stables had over 1,000 points, so I brought it down a bit.)

Also, no one says you have to redeem your points.  If you happen to have the stall space, then you can get an extra horse (assuming you have enough points, obviously).  Otherwise, you can just get a discount on a breeding, or some extra cash to help out with taxes and such.

Given that the rich are already pretty damn rich (Jase has earned over 20 million this year in race winnings alone), I'm not sure that adding this in is going to make rich stables any richer.  (I know I, for one, will likely be too lazy to redeem points for cash, though I may redeem them for free breedings or a new horse every few years.)
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« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2005, 09:40:46 PM »

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I am pretty surprised that considering how active I've been I only landed 311 points.


That's because you only get 1/2 the normal points because you've been a member for longer than 2 years.  You get no points for entering races, which is how people are most active, and you only get 1 point for breeding mares, and so on.
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« Reply #27 on: August 21, 2005, 09:47:01 PM »

As far as the rich getting richer, that's how it is in racing in real life too.  It's not coincidence that Stronach, Phipps, Paulson, etc. are consistently top earners.  Seems that it's the same here, with some dominating stables, and the rest in the chase. Obviously, Central Coast Lodge deserves to be a top earner every year. I don't think that the activity incentives will put the dominating stables at any more of an advantage.
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Andrea
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« Reply #28 on: August 21, 2005, 10:54:29 PM »

Even though he annoys us sometimes, neither Shanthi or I are about to complain about Jase making money.  How he finds time for a life is beyond me.  ;)

But if you consider Stillwater and Storybook to be two of the "bigger" stables and look at point totals, you'll see that we're not really very high on the list.  Holly has like 4x as many points as I do because of the newbie rule.  So basically this'll help people out when they're getting started and become fairly unused as you get bigger.  One broodmare every 2 years isn't much of a size boost, and it's one I'm not likely to use because I have mares I want to keep for breeding.  Same with yearlings and weanlings, I barely have time/space for the ones I bred!
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JasonCameron
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« Reply #29 on: August 21, 2005, 11:03:49 PM »

I agree with Andrea. Looking over things and how you get the free horse, I probably won't bother redeeming my points either. Maybe for the money just to get rid of them, but I'm doubtful I want to try my luck with random horses when I have a stable full of mostly proven bloodlines. :)

This is a great feature for newbies actually so take advantage of it guys! :)
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