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« on: January 11, 2012, 01:03:21 AM »

Well, I figured it's time to update my original analysis of the Highland Rogue sons, which was posted back in 2009. A lot has changed since 2009. Highland Laird, Turn 'n' Burn, Must Be Magic, and Highland Bandit have been pensioned (*SOB*). The younger sires have had at least a crop or two hit the track, so it's time to give everyone (and the newer stallions) a second look.

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, please note, as part of my analysis I'm trying to point out strengths and (new this year) weaknesses. I have limited myself to the facts, as best I can, and I welcome you to correct me where I'm wrong. For all studs I have pointed out one thing that disappoints me. For my own, I have pointed out two issues that disappoint me. If you do take issue with what I have written, please PM me. I'll be more than happy to delete your stallion's entry in this post.

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ICh. Highland Magic (Highland Rogue x Dark Magic; 2002; Rating: 7.2) has been around the block for a bit now. His first crop is now 7 years old. 44 of his 99 foals have hit the track at some point, and a whopping 82% are winners.  25% of his foals (11 of 44) have at least one stakes win. 14% (6 of 44) are multi-stakes winners, of which 2 (5%) are millionaires. He has 14 foals with a Ch. title and two who are GCh. or better (GCh. Hugo and ICh. Spock). What I'm slightly disappointed to see is that while there have been a fair number of stakes winners and multistakes winners since GCh. Hugo (b. 2008) and ICh. Spock (b. 2009), there hasn't been another horse of similar or equal caliber since then. Nonetheless, Magic seems to throw SWs relatively consistently, which is an accomplishment any stallion should be proud of. It's worth noting that from 2014 on his crops look to be fairly large. I'm hoping there will be another talented runner by Highland Magic to prove once and for all that GCh. Hugo and ICh. Spock are not outliers. Standout Foals:GCh. Hugo, ICh. Spock.  Stud Fee: $50,000

GCh. High On Love (Highland Pride x Highland Lover; 2004; Rating: 4.9) High on Love's first crop of foals are now 6yos. Like ICh. Highland Magic, 2014's crop is going to be his first large crop to hit the track. Thus, bear in mind that this analysis is based only on 18 racers (of 46 total foals). So, of the 18 foals to race, 10 (56%) are winners, 3 (17%) are stakes winners, of which 2 are multi-stakes winners, millionaires, and, coincidentally, stud-qualified. He has 1 foal with a Ch. title, 1 foal with a GCh. title, and one with a WCh. title. One thing mare owners should be aware of is that High On Love is line-bred (3x3) to Highland Rogue. I'm disappointed to see that some of his older foals are only "placed," but this can be chalked up to the fact that they are (mostly) lightly raced. I should note that his best foal to date (WCh. Drum Major) did his best work  as a 4yo, though he did have a nice 3yo career as well.  I hesitate to mark him as a "proven" stallion (and thus make generalizations) since only 5 of his foals have completed their 4yo season. I think this coming year, with 7 3yos-come-4yos and 11 2yos who could potentially hit the track, we'll get a better sense of whether or not he throws consistent runners. In short, he's thrown a couple AWESOME horses (2 stud-qualified horses!) and a fair number of lower-level allowance horses in a crop of 18 runners. I'm hoping that this season we'll see a lot of his foals mature as 4yos and start kicking butt. Standout Foals: WCh. Drum Major, GCh. Galaxy's Zodiac Stud Fee: $5,000

Junior Stallions (1st crop is 3yo-4yo)

FFCh. High Chances (Highland Laird x Second Chance; 2004; Rating: 6.1) High Chance's first crop has now turned 4yos. 51 of his 114 foals have hit the track at some point, and a respectable 76% are winners. 18% of his foals (9 of 51) have at least one stakes win. Roughly 10% (5 of 51) are MSW, of which 2 (4%) are millionaires. He has 11 foals with a Ch. title and 1 foal with a GCh. title. As his owner, I'm disappointed on two fronts. First, his foals seem to be inconsistent. Some of his early stakes winners (e.g. Ch. Cigarina, Ch. Tickled Pink) who won stakes as 2yos failed to perform as well as 3yos (i.e. no stakes wins). Second, some of his get seem to be a bit more fragile than I like. Granted, some of this may be due to the mare, but I've seen more serious injuries (bowed tendons, overheats, and a freak-accident broken-leg) than I would like. I'm hoping his 4yos will perk up and will be quite disappointed if they don't. Nonetheless, he seems to throw horses that will win-place fairly consistently at the allowance level. I am pleased that 40% (20) of his foals have 3 wins or greater, half of which (10) have 5 wins or more. For the time being, I will say that he seems to be a dependable allowance sire. Standout Foals: GCh. Notachanceinheck and Ch. High Risk (millionaire) Stud Fee: $25,000
N.B. I own HC, so I've tried to be a little more critical with the boy. I'm also more attuned to how his get (as opposed to other stallions) have been doing in terms of injuries, average number of wins, etc.. So, for better or worse, this entry is probably biased.

Strider (Highland Rogue x Seeing Starz; 2005; Rating: 4.5) Strider's first crop is now 3yos, so please bare in mind that this analysis is mostly based on how his foals did as 2yos. It is reasonable to believe that many have not yet hit their peak. Strider has 26 of 87 foals that have hit the track. Of these, 15 (58%) have won a race. 12% of his foals to race (3 of 26) have won a stakes race. None have won more than one stakes and none are millionaires. None hold any titles. But again, this is based off only their 2yo season and Strider didn't really hit his stride (no pun intended) until he was a 3yo. So, in short, his 2yo-come-3yo crop would be worth watching on the track this year, especially if Star Spun's Gr. 2win and Portofino's Gr. 2 show in their first start this year is any indication. I'm a little disappointed in the lack of 2yo winners last year, but this could be due to immaturity and the fact that many stables seemed to decide to hold off racing their Strider foals towards the end of last year. I think this year and next year will be interesting ones for Strider's foals, and I'm hoping it won't be long before the cream of the crop becomes more apparent. Standout Foals (all SWs): Set the Stride, Sardinia, Star Spun Stud Fee: $20,000

NCh. Robinhood (WCh. Highland Bandit x NCh. You Belong; 2007; Rating: 1.3) First crop is 4yo this year. That being said, he only has 4 racers out of 43 foals to have hit the track. There's a large percentage of his 2yos come 3yos that are unraced. As such, I don't think it's really fair or accurate to examine him based on 4 runners. Nonetheless, for the curious, his stats are: 4 of 43 foals are racers (9%). Of these 4, 2 are winners. 1 is a stakes winner. No MSW and no millionaires. No titles. Standout Foals: Little John (SW) Stud Fee: $25,000

Fresh Off the Track (Oldest crop is 2yo this year)

NCh. Clockstopper (ICh. Highland Pride x GCh. Hollywood Gold; 2009; Rating: N/A) Only son of Highland Pride at stud. Oldest foals are yearlings. RR: 46(29) 11(10)-4(3)-5(3)-5(1) $2,934,500 Stud Fee: $10,000

NCh. Conflagration (Ch. Turn 'n' Burn x Stormy Subject; 2009; Rating: N/A) Only son of Turn 'n' Burn at stud. Oldest foals are weanlings. RR: 45(33) 10(7)-10(6)-4(2)-5(5) $2,110,800 Stud Fee: $10,000

ICh. Spock (ICh. Highland Magic x Somethin' Smokin'; 2009; Rating: N/A) Only Highland Magic son at stud. Oldest foals are yearlings. RR: 42(30) 21(19)-2(1)-5(2)-1 $16,603,900 Stud Fee: $35,000

NCh. Formal Occasion (GCh. Highland Laird x Jacket Required; 2010; Rating: N/A) One of two sons of Highland Laird at stud. Oldest foals are weanlings. RR: 42(32) 12(9)-6(3)-4(2)-6(5) $2,846,500 Stud Fee: $10,000

If there's demand and I have time, I'll edit this post to include an analysis of studs with Rogue on the dam side. These include Ch. Magic Cross, NCh. Slew O'Scots,ICh. Alley Cat, NCh. Seattle Sorcerer, and ICh. Count Me In.
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2012, 01:31:06 AM »

Love High On Love :)
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2012, 01:48:05 AM »

I have a High Chances colt that just turned 4 and is a Ch.Kichiro and MSW , i am hoping he picks back up this yr as after a rest at the farm he seemed to slack off at the end of the yr.
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2012, 07:35:30 AM »

Interesting! I have a daughter of GCh. High On Love, Ch. Love Signal. She is not very consistent, but she won Gr. 1 Coaching Club American Oaks, then she was 3rd in  Gr. 1 Alabama Stakes, and after some downtime she was second in Gr. 2 Evening Flame Breeders' Stakes. These races were 9-12 furlongs on dirt. I'm hoping to breed her to NCh. Bellagio later this year. He is not related to her, his dam is gold rated and he's also grade 1 level on dirt.

And recently I bought a 2yo filly by NCh. Robin Hood, She's Outlawed. She is bred by Vaucluse Farms, and I bought her because she is not related to my other horses and she seems to be mature early. So we'll see her in the 2yo races this spring :) and she should prefer intermediate distance on turf.
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2012, 07:58:15 AM »

If there's demand and I have time, I'll edit this post to include an analysis of studs with Rogue on the dam side. These include Ch. Magic Cross, NCh. Slew O'Scots,ICh. Alley Cat, NCh. Seattle Sorcerer, and ICh. Count Me In.

Having bred all of them, I'd be curious. ;)
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2012, 09:31:06 AM »

Nice post!
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2012, 02:09:16 PM »

Great read, Cat. As a fellow quant, I'd TOTALLY be interested in the Rogue on the dam-side analysis.  :)
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2012, 02:48:53 PM »

Very interesting! I have plans to send someone to High On Love, so I'm keen to see how this next crop does, too.
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2012, 03:40:44 PM »

Just realized I own a Rogue granddaughter by Turn 'N Burn as well as a Bandit son out of One of my best racers Strike Out.  Can't wait to see what these two do, the filly turned two this year, the colt's just a yearling, so here's hoping they do well!
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2012, 05:38:30 PM »

I'm sending 4 mares to high on love if I ever get a chance to post it,lol
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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2012, 10:59:35 PM »

Loved the anaylasis! Interesting reading!
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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2012, 01:06:46 AM »

This is probably extremely counterproductive in my pursuit to re-acquire Strider from Renegade (let me be a lesson to you all to really commit to the idea and consequences whole heartedly before leaving FF ;) ) but Strider's first crop turned out much like him, mostly uninspiring until their 3yo year (he didn't win once as a 2yo). He now has bundles of MSW as his first crop is 3 soon to be 4, and he is not only Gold rated but the highest ranked Highland Rogue currently standing at stud. I'm pretty proud of him (he's a sentimental favorite too, named after my gelding TB I had in high school, hence the nerdy name) and I'm glad Renegade and I both share the same continent so I have easy access at least. ;)

If you're impatient for 2yo stars I'd recommend mares that peaked at 2.

Excellent post Cat, really interesting reading about all of them! 
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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2012, 03:34:45 AM »

He is a handsome devil, Jade. Glad to see you're back and poking around. ;-)

Should probably update my Worth analysis soon.
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2012, 03:45:27 AM »

Should probably update my Worth analysis soon.

Looking forward to it!
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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2012, 07:51:01 PM »

Great read! It's interesting to see that linebreeding (almost to the point of inbreeding) doesn't seem to affect a stallion poorly as a producer.
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