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Foaling Barn / Re: Darkwoods Foals
« on: 6 hours ago »
I'm so sorry for your loss. At least she has left two lovely daughters behind to continue the line.

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Anything Goes / Re: The Grand National 2018 (Apr. 14)
« on: February 23, 2018, 07:48:47 pm »
I went looking and amazing 13 mares have won the Grand National, but none since Nickel Coin back in 1951. The most recent best-finish by a mare was Dubacilla in 1995, finishing fourth.

Per the Grand National homepage, here are a few facts I thought were really interesting:

- In 1998, Earth Summit, owned by a six-strong partnership, became the first winner of the Grand National who was also successful in both the Scottish and Welsh Grand Nationals.

- Only three greys have won the Grand National – The Lamb (1868 and 1871), Nicolaus Silver (1961) and Neptune Collonges (2012). Suny Bay finished second to Lord Gyllene in 1997 and filled the same spot behind Earth Summit in 1998. King Johns Castle was second in 2008.

International runners haven't done well, but New Zealand breds won it in 1991 (Seagram) and 1997 (Lord Gyllene).

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Anything Goes / Re: The Grand National 2018 (Apr. 14)
« on: February 23, 2018, 01:53:56 pm »
This is all extremely fascinating. Loving the commentary! I try to catch the live stream of the Grand National but don't usually succeed (work/other obligations/usually just forget). In FF I may actually have two prospects, so we'll see!

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Horses For Sale / Re: February Auction
« on: February 21, 2018, 01:53:46 pm »
Auction begins tomorrow and I was able to make myself consign 47 horses! Those with reserves are mostly 5-10k except for Mirror Magic, since she is MSP with Highland Magic/Bold Ruler lines. Auction includes two mares who come in foal, eight yearlings, a pair of 2yo's, and a number of 3yo-5yo racehorses with a handful SP.

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Foaling Barn / Re: Starfish Stables Foals - 2022
« on: February 21, 2018, 01:30:59 pm »
Gorgeously bred filly. Congrats!

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How'd You Do? / Re: 2/21
« on: February 21, 2018, 01:30:16 pm »
The girls killed it! Extremely excited to finish 1-2 in the G1 Fountain of Youth; I think Fendi will aim for the Kentucky Oaks and Lingerie will tackle the boys again in the Derby. Nice long rest until then, I think.

13(5)-3(2)-3(1)-2-2(1) $331,150

 Wins:
 RC Bee lease Twice Blessed (3yo, Eighteen Karat) in a maiden.
 Ch. Lingerie (3yo, Foolhardy) in the Fountain of Youth Stakes (Gr. 1). I love this mare.
 Calindra (4yo, Secretsarebound) in the Turnbull Stakes (Gr. 2). First stakes win!

 Places:
 Far Away Home (4yo, Almost Precious) in a NW1 Allowance.
 Ronara Prime (5yo, Spock) in a claiming race and stays home.
 Fendi (3yo, I'm No Fool) in the Fountain of Youth Stakes (Gr. 1).

 Shows:
 All Snowed In (5yo, All Jazzed Up) in an Allowance.
 Courtship Rituals (3yo, Rock of Gibraltar) in a Starter Allowance.

 Fourths:
 Lothario (5yo, Player) in a NW2 Allowance.
 Phoenix Cure (4yo, Joyeux Oiseau) in the Gulfstream Park Breeders' Cup Handicap (Gr. 1).

 Fifths:
 Boiling Over (3yo, Tottenham Hotspur) in an Allowance.
 Very happy to have claimed Brave Imagination (3yo, Strike It Rich) in a claiming race. She's half to 2 SW's from 3 runners, including MSW stallion NCh. Lake Highlands.

 Also Rans:
 Eleven Racing lease GCh. Legends Last (8yo, Lasting Spirit) 11th in the Gulfstream Park Breeders' Cup Handicap (Gr. 1). Will try an allowance next time.

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Weekly Picks/Handicapping / 2/21
« on: February 20, 2018, 03:33:26 pm »
1. Stand Aside - In Flanders Field - Twice Blessed
2. Gentle Border - Classic Impact - Crises Averted
3. Far Away Home - La Bailadora - Lucky View
4. Selma - Ombudsman - Acclaim
5. Rangirangoo - Meek Linen - Dark Star
6. Suncat - Perfect Toy - Languid Battle
7. Chrysalis - Moon Bear - Missed Opportunity
8. Lothario - Prodigious - Illarwill
9. Socialite - Truly Scrumptious - Wonderful Writer
10. Nieve - X Caliber - Enchanting Reset
11. Woad - Tea Reading - Aggressive Form
12. Sunray - Only Ruler - Suave Suitor
13. Wise Invention - Bold Riley - Up and Up
14. Sudden Roll - Rhapsody in Gold - Top Billing
15. Arabian Knight - Iron and Rue - Speedial Aptitude
16. Red Harted Queen - Heart of Glory - Mister Cellophane
17. Seduction - Silver roses - Fool Moon
18. Lexicon - Sultan - Boiling Over
19. All Snowed In - Artisty - The Devil's Howler
20. Kalina - Saghi - Learned Fan
21. Glass Tiger - Village People - Runaway
22. Huba Buba - Coastal Cake - Saint Peter
23. Invidium - Ghost Train - Rake
24. Regicide - Frin - Rich Belief
25. Erdem - Minor Bird - Magnifico
26. Courtship Rituals - Amongst the Stars - Lucifer's Six
27. ALoverandaDreamer - Naive Templar - Irish Lassie
28. Belle Brigade - Dapper Texture - First
29. That's A Wrap - AlwaysUrSecretary - Wheaten Autumn
30. Hromi Cluster - Caldik Prime - Satler
31. Tall Gate - Powerful Noise - Golden Ghost
32. Bird in a Cloud - Brave Imagination - Spicy Pirate
33. Anchors Aweigh - Diamond in the Sky - Swift Scene
34. Grave Robber - Curious Texture - Busy History
35. Ronara Prime - Smokesignal - Marvelous Verse
36. Starz Wood - Commit to Memory - Early Cave
37. Posthumous - Jolly Wing - Clear Jewel
38. Pepper's Burning - Union Survival - Precious Thing
39. Fly By Dubai - Rough Hour - Happy Name
40. Night Beats - Frontier Show - Pepper Fire
41. PartyWithTheDevil - Alert Noise - Deep Action
42. Blue Horizon - Flaming Parachute - Level Veil
43. Dream of Me - Stalking - Forbidden Secret
44. Silent Night - Fendi - Lingerie
45. At Last Light - Phoenix Cure - Cine Secreto
46. Never Let Go - Hollywood Crystal - Saturn's Rings
47. Itty Bitty Pretty - Theragen - Mountain's Glory
48. Dearbhail - Reverent - Stealth Mode
49. Causin' Mischeif - Born Risky - Burning Hope
50. Starlet High - Folklore - Calindra

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Foaling Barn / Re: Stillwater 2022 Foals
« on: February 19, 2018, 01:35:49 pm »
Congrats on the healthy Ruby foal! I'm sorry about your loss last year; I hope I gave you a LFG on that? If not I'd be happy to waive a breeding fee this year to make up for it.

Also love the name Saxon Gold.

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General/Questions / Re: Stallion Spotlight February II: Eighteen Karat
« on: February 19, 2018, 01:33:52 pm »
After leasing a number of RC Bee's horses (most by Eighteen Karat) he quickly became a favorite of mine and I try to ship at least one mare to him each year. I currently own SW's A Devil's Hunger and Helsman, and multiple winner Aether. Leasing-wise I have the lovely Ch. Arkenstone again, who I also leased last year to a few stakes placings. I just took on Twice Blessed, another RC bee lease, who ran 2nd 3 times from 6 starts last year.

Waiting in the wings is a single 2yo and a pair of yearlings, and one mare in foal to him for next year. I'm finding his horses to be really hardy (no injuries yet!) and most seem to like the classic distances on any surface.

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General/Questions / Stallion Spotlight February II: Eighteen Karat
« on: February 19, 2018, 02:07:50 am »
Stallion Spotlight: February  II

 NCh. Eighteen Karat
2010 bay Thoroughbred stallion, 17.0hh
What’s It Worth x Heart of Gold – Mr. Prospector
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CAREER
Bred by Central Lodge, Eighteen Karat was acquired by RC Bee as a 2yo and has been based out of California ever since. He hit the board in 3 of 5 starts at two, but it was with age he improved drastically. Displaying an affinity for nearly every distance on dirt and turf, he won G1 events such as the Belmont Stakes, Breeders’ Stakes, and Santa Anita Derby with board placings in the Kentucky Derby, Brisbane Cup, and Eddie Read Handicap. He set 5 speed records, all at 10 furlongs or longer on the turf—three times setting a new record for 12 furlongs. In all he won 10 of 61 starts, hitting the board 31 times and banking over $2.4 million over four years of racing.

During his career he beat stallions Tottenham Hotspur, Carrowmore, Dixie Time, Player, Dr. Evil, Celtic Star, and Formal Occasion.

INJURY HISTORY
In four years of racing he was never injured.

LINEAGE
His sire, WHAT’S IT WORTH, had 127 foals, 73 stakes winners and 49 MSW’s with a phenomenal 37 millionaires. These millionaires include FFCh. TakeMeToHollywood, FFCh. Foolhardy, WCh. I’m Your Angel, WCh. Worth My Time, WCh. What’s Debatable, ICh. Worth the Wait, ICh. Candidate, ICh. Chivalry, ICh. Worth the Risk, ICh. What’s Your Dream, NCh. Arda, NCh. Black Warrior, NCh. Beautiful Dreamer, NCh. Fleet Street, NCh. Highland Wizard, NCh. Sneak Peak, GCh. Worthy Sage, GCh. Worth My While, GCh. Fine Notice, GCh. Fanfare, Ch. Olympic Colors, and many more. He has 11 gold-ranked daughters, 18 silver, and 19 bronze. By far one of the most famous sire of sires next to the Highland line, he is the sire of retired stallions Highland Wizard, What’s Debatable, Worth My While, Worth the Wait, TakeMeToHollywood, Tryst of Fate, I’m Your Angel, and Black Warrior. Currently his actively standing stallions, beside subject stallion Eighteen Karat, are Candidate, Chivalry, Gunningdownromance, and Express Yourself.

His dam HEART OF GOLD, produced 12 foals, 11 winners, and 5 stakes winners. In additional to her sole MSW, Eighteen Karat, she produced stakes winners Ch. Notanotherhighland, I Will Lead, and Alygold along with stakes placed Ch. A.P. Gold, Ch. What a Flirt, and Ch. Golden Quest. Through her daughters she is the granddam of GCh. Incandescent, Ch. Expelliarmus, Ch. Judgement Call, Ch. Gonnabeamightyking, Ch. Eulogy, Ch. Not Another Word, Ch. Timbuktu, and Ch. That’s Not My Point. She is by Mr. Prospector, a silver-ranked broodmare sire.

The combination of What’s It Worth/Mr. Prospector has also produced SW and MSP Ch. Costalotta.

SIRE RECORD
At the time of this post, he is Bronze-ranked (2.9). Eighteen Karat has sired 6 crops with 76% starters, 53% winners, 11% stakes winners and 4% multiple stakes winners.

Out of 59 current stallions w/ started offspring:
  • 8th in highest winning percentage of offspring
  • 23rd in offspring earnings
  • 22nd in highest G1-placed offspring
  • 24th in G1-winning offspring

Leading Earners
  • GCH. EL DORADO ($1,598,000), G1 The Black Breeders’ Stakes, G2 Churchill Downs Handicap, G2 Shannon Stakes, G3 Stuyvesant Stakes, 2nd G1 Breeders’ Cup Sprint, G1 Sunshine Millions Sprint.
  • CH. SLOW MOONBEAM ($646,550), Meadow Brook Stakes, G3 Aqueduct Handicap, 2nd G1 Irish Two Thousand Guineas, 2nd G2 Ascot Vale Stakes.
  • CH. POLITE VESSEL ($344,500). G1 Del Mar Oaks, G2 San Marcos Stakes, 2nd G3 Arlington Handicap.
  • CH. STARFLEET CAPTAIN ($370,250), G2 Sorrento Stakes, 3rd G1 Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Fillies, G3 Chicago Breeders’ Cup Handicap, G3 Santa Ysabel Stakes.
  • CH. WILD COUNTRY ($280,450), Gazelle Stakes, 3rd G2 Bison City Stakes.

Foals for Thought
Looking at his 3 MSW’s and 7 random stakes winners, 1 had their best career year at age 2 (0%), 5 at age 3 (0%), and 3 at age 4 or older (0%). His foals seem to run on both dirt and turf with an affinity for classic and long distances.

Currently he has produced MSW’s out of mares by Worth My While, Highland Laird, and False Promises. His dam’s half-sisters have produced MSW’s by Long Live the King, Unabridged, Candidate, and What’s Debatable.

* * *

Eighteen Karat currently stands in California at RC Bee for $2,500

He is BC nominated and he not does require approval to breed to.
Please share your own foals and successful crosses below.

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Anything Goes / Re: Southern/Northern Hemisphere Age Differences
« on: February 17, 2018, 01:54:30 pm »
That's all really interesting.

(No way it's coming to FF, though, just thinking about it makes my brain hurt, let alone adding logic to the game. I know you weren't suggesting that, but just to be clear.)

It made my brain hurt figuring out the RL setup, lol. Luckily FF operates in a magical world where everything is the same season, there's no quarantine, and it's years in the future.  ;)

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How'd You Do? / Re: 2/17
« on: February 17, 2018, 01:06:43 pm »
Stakes kids aside, THAT'S how you do it.

24(5)-5(1)-5-5-2(1) $265,400

Wins:
Catullus (3yo, Sleipnir) in an Allowance.
Marchioness (3yo, I'm Your Angel) in an Allowance.
Hypnotic Ghost (3yo, Sea the Stars) in a claiming race.
RC Bee lease Amatus (3yo, Golden Text) in an Allowance.
Golden Egg (3yo, All Jazzed Up) in the Boo La Boo Stakes (Ungr.).

Places:
Elope (3yo, Bellagio) in a maiden.
Martini Night (3yo, Nightfight) in a NW2 Allowance.
Guardian of Hell (4yo, Devil His Due) in a NW2 Allowance.
National Sugar (5yo, National Post) in an Allowance.
Back for Power (4yo, Mantle of Power) in an Allowance.

Shows:
Kismet Thoroughbreds lease Mischievious Joe (5yo, My Lucky Day) in a NW2 Allowance.
Heist (4yo, Witness) in a NW3 Allowance.
Blue Roses (5yo, Blue Ensign) in an Allowance.
Decorated (4yo, In The Navy) in an Allowance.
Violette (3yo, Unabridged) in a maiden.

Fourths:
Into Darkness (5yo, Spock) in an Allowance.
Ch. Marked Crusade (4yo, Player) in the Bill Ritchie Handicap (Gr. 3).

Fifths:
Rosalind (5yo, Galaxy's Zodiac) in an Allowance.
Power of Three (3yo, Count Me In) in the Hutcheson Stakes (Gr. 2).
Dr. Horrible (4yo, Dr. Evil) in the Epsom Handicap (Gr. 1).

Also Rans:
Nordic (4yo, Rock of Gibraltar) 8th in an Allowance.
Floodlight (3yo, Created) 13th in a NW1 Allowance.
GCh. Sandman (6yo, Nightfight) 10th in an Allowance.
Marseillaise (4yo, Oscillation) 7th in the San Luis Obispo Handicap (Gr. 2).

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Foaling Barn / Re: Black Storm West 2022 Foals
« on: February 17, 2018, 04:31:29 am »
BRADBURY, 10.0h bay colt
ICh. Starling x Midnight Return (S) - Ch. Magic Cross (B)
Could be worse than 13 days late, given the size of this boy! This striking bay son of Midnight Return is half to SP Ch. Rosette, and MSW Ch. Owl Hunt. From the same family as MSW GCh. Jack O'Lantern, and SW's Ch. Marilyn Monroe and Ch. Trick Or Treat. Named after Ray Bradbury. Midnight Return will visit Demand the Best for 2023.

17 Colts | 15 Fillies | 1 Stillborn -- 54 due

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Anything Goes / Re: Southern/Northern Hemisphere Age Differences
« on: February 16, 2018, 07:04:40 pm »
Honestly not sure. I know for the Dubai World Cup carnival they specifically say southern hemisphere horses must be X age and northern hemisphere X age to account for the difference.

UAE Derby (UAE-G1) Qualification:
3-year-olds from the Northern & 4-year-olds from the Southern Hemisphere

So I imagine those in the southern hemisphere must be 1 year "older" than American horses to compete in age-specific races, rather than 1 year younger. So a 3yo in Australia would be classified as a 4yo in America to account for southern hemisphere horses being born much later in the northern hemisphere racing season. If a 3yo-restricted USA race comes along, southern hemisphere horses must be considered a 4yo down under as a way to give them extra growth months.

I had to really draw that out for it to make sense in my own brain, lol.

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Foaling Barn / Re: Generous’ Foals 2022
« on: February 16, 2018, 06:49:24 pm »
Great name!

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