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« Reply #45 on: March 25, 2005, 08:14:42 pm »
 When you start crunching

numbers like this it does become a bit addictive(except for Jason) since you begin to realize

that they way you approach them tends to push the answer in a specific direction. B)  

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« Reply #46 on: March 25, 2005, 09:15:08 pm »
 The qualifications I'm

thinking of would be something along the lines of:

To qualify as a chef-de-race at all, a

sire must have at least 300 points in any given category, as well as having SW horses as

foals and grandfoals.
To qualify as a chef-de-race in multiple categories, a sire must have

at most a 10% difference in scores (for example, 1000 and 1100 in 2 categories would work,

1000 and 1200 would mean he only gets the 1200 category).  Also, I would suggest that both

categories' scores must be at least 1,000.

For mares, I would suggest:
To qualify as a

reine-de-course at all, a mare must have at least 50 points in any given category, as well as

having SW horses as foals and grandfoals.
To qualify as a reine-de-course in multiple

categories, a mare must have at least 100 points in each category.  In the (rare) case of

having 100+ points in 3+ categories, the top 2 would be used.

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« Reply #47 on: March 25, 2005, 09:22:25 pm »
 Yup I like that, they seem

pretty fair. We don't want a host of horses qualifying as that would defeat the purpose...

:) Yay this is fun.

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« Reply #48 on: March 25, 2005, 10:21:22 pm »
 It 's all good  :D  no

matter how we got there we both have Rogue as the only double. this can only get better as

the data base expands, and you see how accurate it is. The quals might need to be tweeked if

the game expands in some major way :)

Jason this is fun because Shanthi's doing the

drudge work ;)  

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« Reply #49 on: March 26, 2005, 04:41:03 pm »
 I've set up a page to

calculate the potential qualifiers for chef-de-race studs, and it comes up with this

list:

What's It Worth (218): B-884, I-2068, C-1251, S-561, P-326
Cigar (34): B-173,

I-909, C-195, S-11, P-2
Highland Rogue (35): B-628, I-1598, C-1619, S-363, P-31
Alydar

(19): B-102, I-454, C-495, S-42, P-0
Secretariat (16): B-169, I-450, C-228, S-20,

P-6
Townsend Prince (210): B-45, I-348, C-340, S-25, P-2
Seattle Slew (21): B-58, I-381,

C-184, S-101, P-27
Bold Ruler (14): B-569, I-494, C-143, S-0, P-0

So we may want to set

the minimum at 500 points in any given category, which would give us 3 current chef-de-races:

Highland Rogue, What's It Worth, and Cigar, with Alydar, Secretariat, and Bold Ruler being

close to qualifying.

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« Reply #50 on: March 26, 2005, 05:16:31 pm »
 wouldn't Bold Ruler make it

in the Brilliant catagory with 569? and if so that would give 4 horses that qualify. I think

500 is a good cut off, since this is supposed to be the creme-de-la-creme. Right?


 

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« Reply #51 on: March 26, 2005, 09:04:50 pm »
 So I think the "final"

official list is as follows:

Chef-de-Race
Highland Rogue

(35): B-1354, I-3884, C-2886, S-781, P-158
Cross Roads

(205): B-532, I-1659, C-1005, S-248, P-74
The Black (10):

B-460, I-850, C-241, S-57, P-9
Secretariat (16): B-379,

I-962, C-365, S-120, P-86
Cigar (34): B-340, I-1139, C-469,

S-11, P-2



Reines-de-Course
Second

Chance (132): B-503, I-296, C-162, S-49, P-0 [B/I]
Hollywood

Queen (133): B-174, I-713, C-165, S-199, P-101 [I/S]
Townsend

Holly (32): B-167, I-627, C-109, S-1, P-45 [B/I]
Lady

Temperence (236): B-12, I-104, C-240, S-29, P-0 [I/C]
That's

Debatable (111): B-62, I-233, C-101, S-31, P-1 [I/C]
Tea Time

(63): B-154, I-10, C-3, S-0, P-0
Lymerick (58): B-10, I-20,

C-140, S-0, P-0 [C]

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« Reply #52 on: March 26, 2005, 09:11:34 pm »
 The only questoin is what to

do with Rogue.  ;)  He obviously outstrips the other sires in B, I, and C, but given the 10%

rule he only classifies as I.

So, possibly if the sire has 2+ categories with over 2,000

points, then he would qualify for both?

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« Reply #53 on: March 26, 2005, 09:14:31 pm »
 Well I guess that works, he

has to be given some consideration... :P

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« Reply #54 on: March 26, 2005, 10:18:15 pm »
 How did you come up with the

last set of numbers up untill them Rogue would have qualified as I,C?

Foget it not a big

deal

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« Reply #55 on: March 26, 2005, 10:27:35 pm »
 Now the trick is to teach

people to use this right. ;)  

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« Reply #56 on: March 26, 2005, 10:36:49 pm »
 One wierd question where did

Easy Goer end up? Being damsire to Rogue I would have thought would get him a ton of points

out of that bloodline.
 

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« Reply #57 on: March 26, 2005, 10:46:16 pm »
 Sires only get points for

foals and grandfoals, which means that Rogue's foals don't count for EG.

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« Reply #58 on: March 26, 2005, 10:50:04 pm »
 Is there anyway to tell for

steeplechase? Or do we just think 'oh yep, he was good and has high points...'? I know

I've got a couple of nice jumping mares that should ideally be bred to a jumping sire, or

possibly a turf sire. Or maybe I'm missing the point of this altogether... :blink:  

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« Reply #59 on: March 26, 2005, 11:31:11 pm »
 I have now revised the Hall

of Fame to show the chef-de-race and reine-de-course horses, so please refer to that for the

current list.